Ok this is an odd thing that's annoyed me for a fair few years now and it does seam like it'll never change. Like when you post something on facebook regarding multimedia (embedded playback)
IE: you post a video from youtube and on the facebook page your looking at.. is a "Play Button" wich is easier to hit and saves any new window or app opening.. but just what's the cost of that simplicity to the creator of the content and the impact it has on their will to do more?
Not everyone knows this but youtube doesn't count embedded statistics as valid views... So not only would you loose out on that 2nd Adsense placement in the top right corner....
But posting on facebook, twitter, forums and blogs, any embedded environment also doesn't register as a video view... even the likes of 400 views on Fandalism or Reverbnation, and yet only 6 actual views on youtube.
This video for example (and people know my airwolf work tends to get hammered over time)
this so far has had 99 Views (on youtube)
Stat wise that would be 99 IP addresses that have viewed the video for about 66 seconds or more and in turn would probably show an advert on the video and one on the page (so 2 ads) 4 if the user didn't minimise the little bar over the video that rotates between 3 adverts...
Now a test on facebook (making one single post, to be able to see the total stats) and then "sharing" that post, rather than sharing the link with new posts, So i shared the actual post (a re-share doesn't count stat wise neither a lot of the time)
The post was shared into 4 Airwolf communities, 4 locations where my work is essentially viewed by many people in many countries.. and my aw stuff has drawn random fans towards it for over 10 years now, so a perfect place to give something and test a theory. So how close to 99 would it be? in groups with roughly 500 to 1000 members?
683 & 99 = the actual amount of hits it may of got...
but financially speaking (if trying to earn a living) and (marketing your stuff via social media)
facebook would essentially loose me a possible 683 video views, that kinda number would of had the video higher up youtubes ladder in its initial few hours = less buffering as its on more servers faster due to demand and way more traffic could be generated that way. Regardless of that statistic fk up fact... But that's also 683 "advert 2 boxes" that would never be shown and never earn't...
Meanwhile facebook limits who can see posts and offers you to PAY them money to spam peoples news feeds... while showing 3 or 4 other adverts that slow yours down..
Ive had music videos with 34 hits on Youtube and yet on facebook,, seen by 3493 and 500+ likes, yet their it sits on youtube.. video uploaded a year ago.. 34 views.. yet at least 500+ watched it and bothered to like it on facebook.
I think to Bullet Point this in a simple manner, when you share a link to your video outside youtube
Your video gets = 0 Views
Your fb page post reach = fk all tangible
You get = 1 ad view (not 2)
FB with silverlights advert rotation = fb get 30+ advert views during the length of your video
so you get zero views on yt, you get a few likes, load of useless page stats on fb, while fb coin it in and your youtube videos linger around with barely any views and upload dates that say its been around a long long long while... and no ones watched it.. so it must be crap
Then as artists we may also sadly learn most users have ad blocker plugins on their firefox or opera (web browsers) so fb's ads get through at times and the youtube users ads don't. So in the end the video people liked made nothing, never really represented nothing and if anything, sits on youtube with major crap stats making it look worthless.
In light of this, Youtube have got the option to "only playback on monetised platforms" that'll stop loads of people watching videos and a good % of them will have no fkn clue why videos wont playback... Then there is also the "Disable Embedding" option, meaning the video will ONLY play on the Youtube page.. so the UPLOADER (that poor fkr who put the time and effort in) would maybe not just get the VIEW.. count.... but also maybe the TWO ad hits..
And maybe even a like or a subscriber that means something (numbers matter in the right place)
But this zero reward for time served is starting to get to a lot of artists & editors.
it's time people logged into youtube and supported the creators of the content they enjoy watching, or at some stage more and more people will walk away or lock down settings.
Feedback isn't just inspiration for people, its a small sign that what your doing is working...
Aw vs KR amassed over 2.8 Million views in 3 years
If that had been a facebook post it would of been more like 1500 views on youtube and yet seen by 4.9 million on facebook.
Advertising often pays for a lot of things people never consider.
Torrents killed Stargate, advertisers wouldn't fund the show because the shows ratings sucked (thats because torrents let uk users watch 1 to 12 six months early with usa sci-fi releases) then it let USA users watch 13 to 22 six months early with uk sky1 releases... This is fact... (lack of ratings = a lack of ad revenue) as an audience.. the majority are not very bright
Stargate aint the only show torrents killed...... ¯\(º_o)/¯
I would be interested to know peoples views on social media, primarily the impact (based on its ease of use) over what statistics we loose because of it. Am i the only one who sees this problem, or is this also annoying other people who put hours and hours in only to see how bad some stuff looks in some places due to the lack of reported stats & feedback? This isn't for a course or a book or anything, im just curios as to am i the only one seriously annoyed with the decline in numbers and input that has diminished over time for most people due to websites not co-operating with each other.
Don't get me wrong, facebooks done a lot of great things (sorry) facebooks made a lot of great things "possible" there is actually a massive difference, but it has helped people to home and find lost pets, find lost and stolen property even catch criminals.. but like anything in life, it has its good points and its bad points. As creative artists we have lost a lot of respect from people simply due to something as simple as facebook. You wont LIKE something because then 300+ people have commented on a post you liked... and you won't comment on something because 300+ people have liked something you commented on.. all due to not wanting a notification (that you can actually turn off)
Meanwhile.. where is the feedback.. there is no 300 comments, no 300 likes, no will to go on..
what we get is 1000+ people reached and a sense of what we did was crap... yes / no?
Social Media formats have essentially killed creativity and speeded up the process of exploiting and data mining of personal information to sell you sh*t that makes you even less fkn creative : /
This aint my first Rodeo with stat problems and a company hell bent on implementing code that looses Key data that is important and shows the time, the effort and the love....
Look at the DATE.. 13th November 2005 (from a time when the org couldn't embed yt links)
.. there are Millions of minuets, thousands of hours, masses and masses of views missing between NOV 2005 and and OCT 2007... Millions.... (ive noted in the past i still get comments today posted 4+ years ago and may of been marked as spam) their still trying to recover lost data.
Meanwhile they all push away members with enforced features no one wants, while we help pay their bills?.. see Microsoft are doing away with onedrive Groups.. Dejavu from MSNgroups right?
will any of what we fkn do even be around a year after we die?.. or be purged from a server because their changing the name and selling the shares?.. where is the longevity or the reason as to why bother?.. congrats on your position, log in today to maintain it or you will be dropped.. log in.. congrats you qualify to be spammed again...
Should you be on Every social media website?
Is it even worth the hassle of being active on every music or media site?
I am failing to see how diluting your content & separating your audience and what little input gets any were...
Lets see what people on Twitter have to say...
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Does the Ease of Using Social Networking Kill Your Coverage,Mojo, Statistics and Income? #Facebook #Twitter #YouTube http://t.co/wxwGFiH4oE— TheWraith517 (@TheWraith517) September 20, 2015
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